Unlocking Purpose and Finding Clarity With Your Soul’s Path: A Psychic and Mediumship Reading

In this episode of the Living Out Love Podcast, we explore the behavior we choose to avoid feeling uncomfortable emotions like grief. We'll explore how easy it is to numb or ignore feelings of grief by craving things like media, TV, the internet, and food instead of facing challenging emotions head-on. Discover what happens when you check in with yourself about why you are engaging in certain behaviors so that you can make conscious choices instead of running away from your pain. This episode will help empower us all by exploring the importance of acknowledging our grief so that we can live life fully!

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Grieving is an important step that needs time and space for expression.
• Therapists, supportive relationships, and journaling can help process emotions until they've been completely felt.
• Grief should not be skipped over as it will affect your vibration and attract future experiences into your life.
• Take inventory of habits and what you consume to determine if you are using it as pain avoidance.

Amy Hageman  00:13

Hello love's Welcome back to the living out love podcast. Today's episode is our monthly behind the scenes private reading. So today's call is with Patti, and you will hear typical cell phone signal stuff is a little few patchy spots. And her reading is a combination of psychic information and mediumship. So please enjoy!

Amy Hageman  00:39

All right, we are recording. So oh my gosh. Okay, I was gonna ask you, how can I help but they want to dive in and they want to talk about your health.

Patti  00:49

Start there, I guess so.

Amy Hageman  00:51

Okay. They want to talk about.. they want to affirm for you that this health journey was very much a part of your soul's like blueprint for this lifetime. And that your soul really came in with the task of how can I find perfect health. And it really had to get messy and dirty along the way. And that's okay. And they just want to like confirm for you that this is a healing journey. And healing is not just a physical word, it's an emotional word, it is a soul level phrase for just transformation and coming to a new state of being.

Amy Hageman  01:38

So they are just confirming for you that like part of your lifetime assignment was to prioritize health and figure out health. And they want to say, although it's been a burden, it's also been a privilege that you get to prioritize it compared to some past lifetimes where that was not an option. So part of having to have a health journey was just having the ability to love yourself through it is healing at a soul level, because that wasn't something you have the privilege to do and past lifetimes. So that's really interesting. The the main reason why they want to bring up your health is because they, they see you as being on the road to perfect health. And if that is the vision that you have, in your mind, they want to confirm for you that that's the vision, if that's not the vision they have in your mind, they want you to step it up.

Patti  02:33

Okay, I'm struggling with that I'm trying to get there, but it's a struggle.

Amy Hageman  02:38

Sure, I can totally see why it's a struggle. I mean, I don't know all the ins and outs of your health journey. But I know just enough to say like, of course, that's just sort of what human doesn't struggle with the idea of perfect health. And obviously, perfect health looks different and everybody's body. But this, I mean, this is not a threat. This is a very loving, gentle thing they want to say. So please don't hear it as a threat.

Amy Hageman  03:03

But what they want to say is your journey to perfect health, you could figure it out in this lifetime. Or you could take two or three more lifetimes to figure it out. And that's up to you. They think you are doing all the things to figure it out in this lifetime. already. It's not like you need to change what you're doing your approach to your health, you're already doing all the things that would get you there one day. And you don't if holding the vision of perfect health is too hard. Then hold the vision of I could have perfect health for six hours. Like I could have six hours in a day where everything works properly. Like chunk it up in time and see if that helps you get there. And like maybe one day you could have I could have a whole day of where I don't even think about it another one apologize because this is not what you wanted to talk about today.

Amy Hageman  04:08

Are you with me?

Patti  04:09

Yeah, you're cutting in and out a little bit. Okay, okay.

Amy Hageman  04:15

Do you feel like you've got the message? Do you need me to repeat stuff?

Patti  04:22

I'm going to say I got enough of what I need because, you know, I know I'll be able to listen okay.

Amy Hageman  04:34

Okay, well, what questions did you have?

Patti  04:42

I guess if we're just like I said, I'm doing everything I'm supposed to be doing but is there more I should be exploring, I guess but I'm not exploring or maybe But you know, I'm avoiding

Amy Hageman  05:04

Sure. The only thing that I see as being additional, like, I don't see that you need to stop doing anything that you're doing. I'm seeing sound bath. Like maybe you get a massage, maybe you don't, but I'm seeing you either laying on a table or sitting in a room with like the singing bowl. That that's just going to be really good for your body in general, as well as your energetic field. And to like, treat yourself to that experience. And allow it to be a treat, like don't feel like okay, I have to do this as part of my regimen like just allow it to be a treat, but know that it will also be really good for you. Okay.

Patti  05:52

That is interesting.

Amy Hageman  05:59

Okay, do you have any more questions today? Or had I, somebody's tapping on my shoulder and I haven't listened fully through yet to figure out who it is because I want to make sure if we have any questions, we get that done first.

Patti  06:10

Basically, I'm here to be guided or listen, so I don't have I didn't come in with any preconceived questions. I'm just totally open to what I guess what spirit is or what spirit has wanted to say that I'm not necessarily listening to. Okay, I'm using this as a like, Okay, this is the time that you've got my full attention.

Amy Hageman  06:32

Gotcha, gotcha. Okay. Your guides would very quickly like to tell you that you do listen. They would consider you a fully listening human. Yes, they say you hear to the extent that humans can hear. Okay, well, that's good to know. Yes. So yeah, no, you are you are getting the messages you're supposed to be getting. And the purpose of today's call is just to give you the affirmation of what you already know to be true, which is helpful. And fun. Also, it's just like a fun experience. Okay, so somebody is like, kind of tickling me. And it's like, it's distracting. They're like, it's sort of a tap on the shoulder. And then as soon as identified as a tap on the shoulder, I can feel them, like, kind of tickle up my neck. Like they're gonna like, you know, the way you like, take a look, you know, kind of behind the ear. They're like, tickling me. So let me let me figure out who this is. Let me see if I can stop being so distracted. Okay. If I tell you this is you're not gonna believe me? I don't believe but to me, this feels like a father figure. So when would you have any real? Like, they are tickling me. Like do you remember your father ever tickling you? I feel like that's. That's gonna be hard for you to swallow.

Patti  07:53

It's not I don't think I don't think it's my father. I'm wondering if it's my father's father.

Amy Hageman  07:59

There you go. Thank you. Okay.

Patti  08:01

He's called Gross. Gross pop. Gross.

Amy Hageman  08:06

Of course he is. Okay, yes. And I and I have like, I have like a belly full of laughter is like the feeling that I get like very light hearted, affectionate, just like loves to laugh. That's the energy that I have of him now. And that's mostly the energy that I would have had of him when in regards to you sweet affectionate. It feels like like, pretty straightforward with him.

Patti  08:40

Yeah, he was. I don't know where he got that nickname. But that was his, you know? That was a moniker he was you know, I grew up with, but he was a great gentleman.

Patti  08:55

Yeah, but he was the one that would tickle. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

Amy Hageman  08:59

He, he's coming in, just to remind you that life can also be fun. Like life has been a lot of work lately. And it's been beautiful like you've had, it's not that you haven't appreciated it and that you haven't had beautiful things. But he wants you to have some more fun. And it's like he literally kind of wants to tickle you like he just wants you to laugh. Like there could be more laughter and not sardonic laughter not laughing in spite of things are at things just like laughing with glee. I want to say joy, but I also want to say glee. They're both true and both need to be said. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then he just showed me like his heart or his chest. So would that make sense about like, how he passed or anything? Do you have anything for him about his heart or his chest?

Patti  09:55

I know he passed away as of an old age. I'm not even for sure what it is. I have why because a you know, I was young, but I mean, here's a very lovely man. And so probably though to his day, it was probably heart related.

Amy Hageman  10:14

Yeah, he just, he was trying to give me like another piece of evidence so that you can know this is him other than the fact that he's tickling me, which he's still tickling me. I will have you know. He's so good.

Patti  10:28

He will do that until, I mean, that's just, that was just his way. I mean, that's how he showed, I mean, loving just wanted to bring lightness to me. That was just Yeah,

Amy Hageman  10:39

yeah, that's just his way. Yeah. And it is distracting. Like, I don't want to really ask him to stop because he's having such a good time. And I'm enjoying his laughter and his just Glee and getting to come through. He is he's reiterating that he wants you to laugh. He showed me like clutching his chest again, just as a way of saying that, like, he is fully healthy now. Like, he's, he's a young man now is what he feels like to me. Like, I know in your life, you've experienced him as a grandparent, I experienced him as being like a really healthy 62 year old, you know, like really healthy and vibrant and like old enough to be mature and a grandparent and have seen some things, but physically strong and flexible and agile, Phil,

Patti  11:31

he always had like a childlike spirit, I will say,

Amy Hageman  11:35

yeah. And part of the reason that he wanted to come through also, is because you, you as a person, and then also lots of people in general, have the idea that mediumship is always about, like healing, and that it can be quite sad and quite heavy. And sometimes that's true. And sometimes that's what's necessary. But it can also be just fun and like joyful. And so he wanted to come through and kind of give you that gift of like, let's just have some fun. Just laugh a little bit already. And if I'm having a hard time not laughing, because I'm physically feeling tickled. So if you feel tickled at any point, today, I'm feeling it kind of like behind my right ear and a little bit almost like under my right armpit. You know, you tickle kids in their armpit, I'm feeling it a little bit more down in my ribs, and specifically in my armpit. But if you start to feel sensation, I for whatever reason, I feel on the right side of my body, it might be on the left for you, but I'm feeling it on my right if you start to feel a sensation today, where it's almost like not fire ants, but like tickling ants are like a little buzzy energy that's specifically located like that's him tickling you. That's what that is. It's like he's genuinely like trying to get you to laugh. And just to know that he's around. He's around. And I he was showing me like you having to be in and out of like different treatments or different hospitals or different doctor's office like he was showing me like you being on this health journey. And I didn't see him in there with you. And so I kind of turned to him and was like, Oh, were you with her? And he was like, no. So he's watching and he's aware. But he so he's, like, supportive from afar. But in terms of like whether or not he's the spirit that's coming down to hold your hand or that stuff like no, he's around when things feel good. He's aware, and it's not like he's not supportive. But he's also saying like, I wouldn't be helpful in a situation like that he would be uncomfortable, and he wouldn't know what to do. It's like, he can't be around when you're crying type of like that says like, it's too uncomfortable for me. And so he's aware of things that are going on. He hasn't missed anything. But he shows up when you need a laugh or when you're already laughing. Like that's when he likes to really be with you. And he says, Your sister have a hard time. Like with laughing. And so he's around her less a little bit. I don't want to be ugly, but that's what he's saying is like, she has a harder time being happy. Does that make sense?

Patti  14:26

Yeah. Well, okay. My sister has told my sister has told me that she has a hard time being around me because I'm too happy.

Amy Hageman  14:37

So yeah, yeah. So that makes sense. Yeah. So he like it's not that he doesn't like your sisters. Of course he does. And he loves everybody in his family on the other side and on still in physical that he's with you more because of that. So it's kind of like not that your sister would listen to this and be like, Well, why doesn't he take on me? And it's not that he doesn't because he does Uh, but you're more prone to actually laugh. So he's just addressing that, that he, he's around, he does visit everybody. But he visits you more. And there is a little bit of, I get very much like I know you told me you were young but I get very much this you know, kind of how we have the like, I don't know the grandparent phrase, but we have the like daddy's little girl phrase for Dad and daughter, you the two of you definitely had the like, granddad, granddaughter version of that. Oh, yeah. We're like, you really admired him. He thought you were amazing. He really enjoyed being with you. Like, there's definitely that relationship between the two of you. And he wants to acknowledge that. That that was not a one sided thing. It wasn't just that you admired him and enjoyed him. Like he very much enjoyed being with you. And the sound of your laughter as a kiddo. Holy cow, like he couldn't get enough of it. And if he were like, if you guys were alive at a different time, if he had been a grandparent back, when, like smartphones, were saying, he would just have hours of you laughing on his phone, because it would tickle him to hear you laugh. So he's definitely a big fan. I feel like really, he's complete. And that's all he wanted to do is come through and say hello, and give you a tickle and remind you to laugh some more on his behalf. But do you have any questions for him while I'm connected?

Patti  16:39

Just let him know. I love him to death. Always have and always will?

Amy Hageman  16:44

Yeah, yeah. I mean, he definitely knows it's so mutual. You guys definitely have that connection. It was it went both ways. And and still does. To your point. It still does. Yeah, I'm gonna be so curious to feel if you get tickled because like, I am feeling so tickled. Still. I'm feeling so tickled. And so I really hope that you get this experience at some point. Yeah. Okay, wonderful. So what what else can we do today? What questions come to mind as we're talking?

Patti  17:20

I like you said, I really didn't prepare a lot of questions, but that was more. Great. So then your spirit guides,

Amy Hageman  17:25

sorry, I'm gonna interrupt you, and your spirit guides are going to come in and introduce themselves a little bit. So Okay. 123, okay, I'm seeing three guides. But we might end up only talking to one like, I'm unclear. I keep seeing three and then one and then two, and three, and one and then two. Okay, so we're gonna invite this guide forward first. And I feel like this is a masculine presence. It does. This guide comes forward looking like human esque to me. Like sometimes they'll come forward looking like an animal. Or like a total this one looks like a human to me. It is not like sometimes our spirit guides are like an Ascended Master, like somebody that we would know like, oh, Buddha is one of your on your team or somebody that like Einstein, or whatever, this isn't, this is just a guide that we will give a name and that, that you don't know. But this is a guide that's been with you, like, you know, energetically This guide has been with you for many lifetimes. I see him as being about seven feet tall, like he's a very tall, very strong build. And I want to say strong bill but then I also want to say lean. And the physical description doesn't actually matter, but because I'm seeing it, I want to share it. And I'm seeing like a full head of like brunette hair. And I would have to say that he's like at least 45 But uh, you look like 28 Like he's got kind of a baby face look to Him. And what the heck is this name? Okay. He's just gonna spell it out letter by letter because it's not like a like a Jonathan or a Thomas or like an American name that he's gonna be able to drop in. J A VORIT H to Boris. But it's like jabber is like kind of how I'm hearing it but as Jay vor IPH Jabber. That sounds so Texan jabber but that is how I'm hearing it. Jabbar is how he would like to pronounce Okay, thank you. He's correcting me I apologize. Okay, so Joe for has been have with you for a very long time. And he wanted to step forward to talk about how much you chose to do in this lifetime. You chose to do a lot you chose to come in, in a way that would prepare you for doing a lot. Does that make sense? Yes, yeah. Like, we're just gonna say like, if you had opportunities for trauma, you had more opportunities than some others did. And there's a lot of healing being done. And part of the dynamic of your lifetime is that you are an old soul surrounded by young souls. You are a soul that learned how to keep your trauma to yourself, like how to not put it on others, you had already learned that, and you're surrounded by people that did not learn that. And that was a big aspect of this lifetime for you, especially in your earlier years. And he wants to acknowledge that you really decided to take on a lot. And he's kind of saying, like, don't worry about it, if you just want to, like be a crab on the beach next time, we'll do that instead. So like, if you genuinely are like next time, I'm just gonna vacation for life, and I'm just gonna be wealthy, and I'm just gonna, like, be beautiful and perfect. And whatever, like, Great doesn't matter. Like whatever your idea of perfect easy is, we can do that next. But everything that you got in this lifetime is what you signed up for. And that's good news, because it means you're capable of dealing with it. But it is a lot. And so he wants to come forward and acknowledge and honor that, like you signed up for a lot. And most people in your life genuinely don't understand how much work you've already had to do and how much work you're still doing. And it's okay, that they don't understand. But that is the case that most people in your life cannot possibly understand. Like the amount of homework your soul has compared to most souls on the planet. They're kind of comparing it to like, most souls on the planet are still in elementary school, maybe Middle School, and you're like, hardcore PhD leveling it. And so if you're looking around and going, This isn't fair. Like, how can these other people have it's so easy? It's like, because they signed up for an easier thing. Not that many people get a PhD. And there's not that many souls on the planet that signed up for as much as what you signed up for.

Patti  23:02

Yeah, I would sometimes say I was out of my mind when I made this contract.

Amy Hageman  23:06

Right. Right. He for the record, he tried to talk you out of it.

Patti  23:13

And I'm so sure I'm stubborn enough that I didn't listen. Yeah,

Amy Hageman  23:16

yeah. But you know, he says, You were sure and you were not wrong. You were sure that you could manage it. And you're like, Listen, I don't want to have to take five lifetimes to do what I could do in one. Let me just like, get it all done. And that's what you're doing. You're getting it all done.

Patti  23:42

Thank you. I needed that validation.

Amy Hageman  23:44

Yeah, you Yeah. He was like he said, he got you to take it down to about 80% of your original plan. It's like your original plan was even worse. I got you to take it down a little bit. And this is this is what we're left with. So you are getting it done. You signed up for literally about five lifetimes worth of lessons in one. That's okay. You can manage it. It's like it's not a bad thing. But it's intense.

Amy Hageman  24:21

So, any questions about that?

Patti  24:24

I will just thank them for the least getting 20% off. I'm at the point, 'well yeah, I'm glad I took some of it off.'

Amy Hageman  24:33

Yeah, absolutely. And he would say like, if we're gonna use the metaphor that you signed up for five lifetimes worth of lessons. You've already cleared about three and a half of them. So like, you've already done a lot of it, you really, really truly have one of the lessons you haven't quite started yet. But like, you'll get there. And you're like halfway through that fourth lesson. And it's not so linear. are no straightforward is that like, oh, the first lesson was how to be loved as a child, like, it's not like a linear, you had five lessons. But using that metaphor, it's like, you're solidly done with about three and a half of them. So you got plenty of time to like, you can slow down a little bit on the work and just know like, I'll heal it when all he when I heal it, or allergy, but when I achieve it, because you do have plenty of time. But this was what this was what you wanted, and he wouldn't, he wouldn't have, quote, sent you down, he wouldn't have sent you down, if it was going to be too much. He wouldn't have allowed it. So you, you do got this. And he's been pleasantly surprised at how much you've done. Like he, he tried to tell you, you're not actually going to make it like you're gonna get down there. And you're gonna either opt out of the lesson, and just become like checked out and self destructive, or like you might commit suicide, because there's no way that you're going to make it and like looking Mater. So you are a soul this very much in touch with yourself. So they're going back to the affirmation of you do get the lessons like you do get the affirmations and the messages, because your soul is very aware of what's going on. Awesome. Yeah. Ah, this was wonderful. So one thing all of your guys want to leave you with real quick, before we go is they just want to say that for you. And for everybody, like knowing their names, or knowing what they look like, like, it's fun and cool. If it helps you it's not necessary, that you relate really well to them just by assuming that like the universe has your back or that source, or God or loving energies or angels, like whoever it is that you're envisioning is fine. And then it really doesn't matter. Just the fact that I see these like beings and entities and I can give them names really is not irrelevant. What matters is that you are trusting that you have a spiritual team that has partnered with you and your experience. And you do have a spiritual team that's partner with you. So as long as you're trusting that and working with them, it doesn't matter if you call it, what you call it and how you address them. It's just like, Alright universe, like let's make this happen. Or alright angels or God or what like if the name doesn't matter. Some people really like to, like, I want to know, my guides, and I want them specifically I want to know all their names and blah, blah, it, it really is not important. For some people. It's important for you. It's not. For most people. It's not

Patti  27:39

I have no trouble remembering people here on earth names.

Amy Hageman  27:46

Yeah, we don't need to add anything that we can't even see.

Patti  27:49

Yeah. You know, you're there. If I'm, you know, I don't listen to the two by four but a little bit more gentle than some in the past point.

Amy Hageman  27:57

Right. There you go. Sounds good. They got the message. All right, Patti. Well, thank you so much for your time. I really enjoyed our reading and I will appreciate you like being willing to come on the podcast, and we'll talk soon.

Patti  28:14

Thank you so much. You have a great day.

Amy Hageman  28:16

You too. Bye.