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For the love of Gemini! With Suzanne Platner

May 17, 2024

For the love of Gemini! With Suzanne Platner

    • Understanding Gemini's role in completing the development of the human being through teaching communication, perspective, and mind.

    • Learning about Gemini personality traits like curiosity, adaptability, love of information and change, and their strengths and weaknesses.

    • Gaining insight into upcoming astrological transits like Jupiter entering Gemini and how they may impact individuals and society.

    • Discovering ways to nurture Gemini energy in oneself and others through listening without judgment, embracing curiosity, and allowing freedom of thought.

    • Considering how astrology like moon journaling can enhance self-reflection and understanding changing perspectives over time.

    • Recognizing the nuances in astrology and how factors like other placements modify signs' traits in complex ways.

 

Transcript

Suzanne 0:00 

They do Shift who they are. And the reason they do that is because they're constantly they receive new information and they're so open to change in their mind that they literally will become a different person. And that for a lot of people I think that that's hard to grasp like you've just said this now you're saying this Why are you flip flop? Well, I received information.

 

Amy   0:19 

This season on the living out love podcast, we are focusing on you, who you are, what motivates you, what you're here to contribute, and how you can expand will be utilizing my leadership skills and spiritual connection. diving deep into the Enneagram and astrology. Listen every week to become intimately aware of yourself. Only then can heal and grow. Let's get to work loves.

 

Gemini season and its influence on human communication and perspective.

Amy 0:50 

Hello, loves and welcome to Gemini season. As our lovely astrology series continues. We have Suzanne Plattner with us to talk about Gemini. And once again, I'm not going to let her talk just yet. Because I just have to tell you, I have kind of overlooked how much Gemini is in my chart because it's not my sun, moon or rising. And so I was thinking about this episode and realizing how much Gemini I actually have in my chart. And so I just all that to say I'm very excited. Suzanne, how are you? I'm

 

Suzanne 1:21 

so good. I'm so good. I I am a sudden Gemini. So, I am very, very excited to talk about Gemini. I've got my shirt. I don't know if you can see. Perspective is everything is what? Oh,

 

Amy 1:34 

that's Yeah. On Point. On point.

 

Suzanne 1:39 

Yeah, you know, so yeah, I love all things Gemini. So of course, so I'm really excited to jump in

 

Amy 1:46 

will tell us what do we love about Geminis?

 

Suzanne 1:51 

Okay? All right. So, you know how I like to start things always with the season, the sign that comes before so that that's where I'm gonna go because that truly is what I love the most about Gemini, um, you know, but I'm going to start with, I'm gonna start talking about Aries first. Sure, you know, we're gonna go back to that because Aries is the first zodiac sign. And it's the first zodiac sign of not only the Zodiac year, but also the season of spring. And so Aries kind of teaches us how to be alive, just it's, it represents this, this fire that brings us to birth and you know, just new and all of that kind of stuff. So, it's just that basic, I'm alive. We get into Taurus season, or snow teaches us about our body, we're alive. And now all of a sudden, we realize we have a body. And we have senses. And let's figure out what all of this is. And now we've come to Gemini, which is the final sign of the season of spring. And so there's a final kind of lesson that is in that about human beings. And that is that Gemini teaches us how to, how to use our minds, how to speak how to communicate how to have perspective, you know, and if you think about just a core of being human once we're alive, we get into our bodies, then we get into our minds. Yeah, so the three signs coming together really, really give us the human being at its most core level. And Gemini completes that so I I just love that. I love that it gives us Yeah, it gives us the ability to use their minds it gives us the ability to speak to listen. You know, it's just it's that thirst for knowledge.

 

Amy 3:30 

I had never heard it put that way. I think that is the most beautiful thing I've heard in a long time. Aries Taurus Gemini and like the Okay, I'm here life exists Yay. I'm in my body and what does sensation feel like and what feels good? And then what do I have to say? And what am I listening for? Oh my word and how all of that adds up to like the self. Right? That

 

Suzanne 3:59 

is so beautiful. That yes, that's why I fell in love with astrology was honestly that that lesson right there is why I fell in love with astrology. Oh, man.

 

Amy 4:09 

Okay, we'll expand some more. I'm sorry. I had to take us back. So it was just that hit me. Explain. Like I have not been hormonal right now. I just teared up you guys. I don't I don't know it just really hit me you know way. Okay. So Gemini specific so Gemini is gave us thought we moved us to the mind but what else do we love about Gemini?

 

Gemini astrology, perspectives, and change

Suzanne  4:34 

Yeah, you know, it's just I mean, that the ability to be curious you know, it's like to just see all of these different perspectives and and just be open minded and just want more like Gemini always wants more. Like their, their thirst for knowledge. It never dries up. They just they always they always want to under Get More one thought literally leads to another which leads to another which leads to another. And, you know, I mean, you know, sometimes in our conversations, I just ramble all over the place and it's just and that's, that's, that's Gemini it's, you know? Yeah.

 

Amy  5:13 

Yeah, I love so because you talk a lot about how one sign follows the other. I love that in the shadow of Taurus, it's kind of like my way or the highway, the shadow is that we're very stubborn. So, then it's followed up with Gemini that's like we could think this way. Or we could think that way. Like how open with the perspective taking? That is so beautiful. Yeah. And that really goes.

 

Suzanne  5:36 

to the fact that yeah, Taurus is a Fixed sign, which does mean yeah, it's kind of stubborn and kind of like gonna stand its ground. And Gemini is mutable, which means like, No, give me all of the things I want. I love change.

 

Amy  5:48 

I you know, like, yeah, oh, no, no, that I can't get behind. I don't love to love Shane. Glad

 

Suzanne  5:55 

to be here does. And they have to all of the mutable signs are the final signs of each season. And so they kind of welcome us into this idea of the next season. You know, for a lot of people. For a lot of people when once you're in that mutable sign, I feel like we all just kind of start mentally shifting to the next season. Like make sense. In June, people are thinking it's summer already. It's not summer, until you know, around June 21. But everybody, it's June and it's summer. Well, that's because Gemini is mutable signs. So it's like, are we ready for summer? I'm done with this whole spring thing. I like spring short. It's cool. But like, some are so cool, too.

 

Amy  6:31 

I mean, I feel like that now. Yeah, like we get to me and it's already like what's happening this summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a beautiful observation. Because I can see that like, at the end of spring. I'm no longer even as a tourist. I'm no longer really present with spring. I'm playing summer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay, so Gemini is the perspective taker. It's sort of like hungry for new ideas. And one thought follows another. That's so it's such a different energy. I guess that's because it's like an air sign. I was going wait, yes. Fire and then on Earth, and now we're in an Air sign. And it's yes.

 

Suzanne  7:11 

Such a different energy. Yeah,

 

Amy  7:14 

it's so funny, because last time we went kind of long, because I wanted to indulge as a tourist. And now I'm like, we're just gonna Chatty Cathy, this one. Hopefully not too much. I'm, so what does a gym and I want or long for? Like? I have a guest, but I would love to hear your answer. Yeah,

 

Suzanne  7:38 

you know, information, information. They, they again, they want to know everything. They have questions, but they longing for more questions. Like they find one question, which leads him into another, and they love that that rabbit hole of just, you know, they don't they never, they never want to tire of questions. They're always wanting to learn more they longed for change. They I mean, like a silly example is, you know, the shampoo that I use, I change the scent every single time I get it, because I use a customizable shampoo. And I am, I'd be so bored. Like, I'm so excited every single time that I get to go in there and change the scent of the shampoo. Like that's just so exciting to me. You know, I love the shampoo. I'm gonna keep using it. But let's smell different this time, because then I get to be excited. Wow,

 

Amy  8:23 

the like the idea of change. I hadn't I hadn't really put that with Gemini before. And then inherent in what you said was like, for me, it felt like also curiosity. Is that part of? I'm assuming so because of question. Yes.

 

Suzanne  8:38 

So curious. Yeah.

 

Amy  8:39 

Which it's so funny, because in certain moods that like a question leads to another question leads to another question in certain things. I'm 100% there. Uh huh. But then there's other things where I'm just like, can we please be done?

 

Suzanne  8:53 

And that's the Taurus and you are Yeah.

 

Amy  8:57 

And it's also like, now that I'm looking at it, because I know where Gemini is, in my chart. I'm like, oh, there are certain things where I really embrace Gemini better than some other things, right?

 

Gemini personality traits, strengths, and weaknesses.

Suzanne  9:07 

Yes, yes. You know, Gemini, just yeah, they love change. They love things to be exciting. Like, they're typically like the social butterfly, you know, like, going around the room and just buzzing, buzzing, buzzing around, you know. And so just like, for me, another personal example is like, you know, I live in California, I love earthquakes. And I think that's a strange things to say. Sure, but I do of course, if it's too big, I'm not gonna you know, I don't like it. Let's be, you know, real about this. But, you know, like, a five pointer and under it just, it's just exciting. You know, it's just like, wow, that was cool. Like something, something to be excited about something to like, make it busy and fun and Geminis love fun. You know, they're just like, they love to talk. They want it to bait. They just they they just want to go all day long and never shut up.

 

Amy  9:55 

They're so like the people that are the Forever learners that are always He's taking classes even though they've already graduated Gemini.

 

Suzanne  10:03 

Exactly. Exactly. Yes. They love school. Absolutely love score. That's so amazing. Oh,

 

Amy  10:12 

yeah. So in some ways, I'm like, Oh, I seem a Gemini and myself in some ways. I'm like, nope, not that. Yeah. Okay, so they long for more information for for data for conversation and for perspectives. What do they hate? Avoid what slows them down?

 

Suzanne  10:31 

Yeah, yeah. frigidity? Oh, you know, just close mindedness. Like when somebody is not even open to hearing another perspective. I mean, that's like, Yeah, you can't

 

Amy  10:42 

manage that. No, I

 

Suzanne  10:44 

cannot. I cannot like, can we hear the other perspective? Like, I want to know, I want to know, um, you know, just adulterated faith if somebody is just again, I guess that's the same thing as what I just said with closing. Oh,

 

Amy  10:56 

no, it's, it's different. Okay,

 

Suzanne  10:58 

thank you. Yeah, it's yeah, when somebody is just so you know, dogmatic and they just, they can't wrap their head around it. I mean, they really can't, you know, and I think the other thing would be boredom. They, they just don't want to be bored. Yeah, yeah, they want something. That's why I said, I like earthquakes, you know, give me something that's just forward about. So

 

Amy  11:20 

that'd be excited about. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, that's hilarious. Okay, so what? What shadows do Geminis have? What do they have to navigate? Yeah,

 

Suzanne  11:33 

you know, a Gemini, I think gossip is, I think, a really, really obvious one. Yeah, they can be too gossipy. They can, you know, people traditionally think of Gemini as has been real two faced, you know, as like, because they're the twins. Yeah, that's, that's the archetype there. That's, you know, what we have in the sky. And, and so they, they do Shift who they are. And the reason they do that is because they're constantly, they've received new information, and they're so open to change in their mind that they literally will become a different person. And that for a lot of people, I think that that's hard to grasp, like, just said this, now you're saying this, why are you flip flop? Well, I received your information, you know, but and that's, that's to them, that's totally fair. But to a lot of people, they don't understand that. And so sometimes they can, they can come off as two faced and they get more in the shadow, they would be two faced, they would, they would take that and use that as, you know, a, you know, something to get back at somebody or to justify an action, you know, so like, using information to create false fallacies, you know, like, yeah, that kind of thing. lack of the ability to actually hear someone what somebody is saying, Now, Gemini superpower not only is talking, it's listening to a good Gemini is an excellent listener. But when that Gemini is in their shadow, they're not going to listen at all, they're just going to talk and not hear a word that anybody else is saying, which, if you think about it, this is just so. So, the opposite of who they're meant to be, and what they're here to learn on this earth. Right. But they can get that wrong, you know, incoherent thoughts, too many lack of focus, just like scattered just all over the place. And Gemini can have a million things coming at them, and just never get to that focus, you know, of, of what they should be really doing. You know, so

 

Amy  13:34 

feel free to plead the fifth on this, because we didn't talk about this ahead of time. I'm curious. I have not experienced you having any of the Gemini shadow personally. So, I'm curious if you feel since you've matured in life, you know, have you had to navigate any of those shadows. And sure, my here's, here's I guess what my assumption is? My assumption is that because Geminis are always looking for data, and because they're chatty, they might actually have an easier time identifying things about themselves. Like I'm Yeah, I don't know, like archetypically I'm like a Gemini might have an easier time. Especially if they are mutable and they can change themselves, they might actually have an easier time with self-development than some other signs.

 

Gemini traits, self-awareness, and personal growth.

Suzanne  14:22 

I do wonder that too. The reason why I hesitate is, is that I'm so I'm a Scorpio moon and Scorpio moon is going to dive right into the psychology and so I think that that for me, that is very, very true. But I think that might be the combination of that Scorpio moon and Gemini sun. That really, really gets in there. I think that that absolutely can be true of a Gemini. I don't think it necessarily is Gotcha. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I think I definitely, I've used information to create fallacies for sure. For sure, I've done that I've been too dogmatic and if you look again at my own natal chart, I have, you know that I'm going to speak a little bit more astrology here few for a second, but my south node is in the ninth house and my north node is in the third house. And what that means is that in a past life, you know, I was too dogmatic in my thinking, the ninth house is ruled by Sagittarius, which is very, very dogmatic. And my north node where I'm supposed to go to heal that karma in this life, the third house, which is ruled by Gemini, so I do. I do sometimes. I can be so open minded, and I can also be very, very closed minded at the same time. Like, I don't I don't even quite know how to wrap my head around that. But I think it's because you know, of that. Yeah, that that my personal nodal structure that just kind of like, yeah, it's,

 

Amy  15:57 

that's interesting that because essentially, what you're saying is, for you, as a Gemini where you needed to grow was actually towards Gemini. Mm hmm. Which is fascinating. I mean, one of the things I was thinking about, as you were talking about, like the two faced is like, you and I have talked a lot about skepticism and questioning as a Gemini trait. And I was thinking, yeah, like, they know not to take things at face value. I always take things at face value. I'm so naive and gullible. And trusting. Gemini is no better than that. And I was thinking how, of course they do. Like, they're, they're a two-faced sign. So of course, they know, to not take things at face value, because they themselves have more than one face. You know what I mean? Funny like that, that play on words, but yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, and of course, every time we have these conversations, there's the big grain of salt that we all have different placements. And when we say like Gemini, it could be your son, it could be your moon, it could be like, you have a lot of planets in the third house. And so we're simplifying and just talking about the archetypes. I feel like every episode, we need to say that because absolutely agreed. Yes. Yes. Yes.

 

Suzanne  17:12 

And, and you mentioned Yeah, we talked a little bit about the third house. So, anyone with a strong Gemini energy, obviously Gemini, sun, Gemini, Moon, things like that, or just a lot of planets in Gemini, third house a lot in the third house, or a really strong Mercury signature. Hmm. You know, Mercury rules Gemini. And so having a real strong Mercury signature, a lot of this stuff is gonna hold true for you as well.

 

Amy  17:33 

Ah, it's funny, because my situation was I, I, I only recently learned how strong my Mercury placement was. I didn't really understand that before. And then I, I had always skipped over how much was going on in my third house? Because a lot of them were the slower moving planets that are generational. And I was just like, Oh, whatever. So, I hadn't really put together I have a lot. I do have a lot of third house energy. So, it's, it's interesting to think about the airiness of the sign. Yeah. And also, just the openness like that's to me, I'm really intrigued by that idea. I like to like; I found the thing that feels good. Let me stick with that. Yeah, it feels good. I'm done. Right, right. So, I've like I've just really stepping into this energy of like curiosity, and like, what else might I find if I was still looking for more?

 

Suzanne  18:29 

Hmm, yeah. Yeah, very Gemini. Yeah.

 

Amy  18:35 

So I think we talked about shadows. But did we did we have any anything I interrupted you to ask about your own experience? So, anything else? That's okay.

 

Suzanne  18:43 

No, no, yeah, that's, that's, I think, covers that. Yeah. So

 

Amy  18:47 

I feel like I should even know the answer to this question. But I genuinely have no idea what you're gonna say, ah, what happens when we don't have enough Gemini? Yeah,

 

Suzanne  18:59 

we lack Yeah, we lack curiosity. You know, I mean, we're just like, we lack the ability to see things from different perspectives, Gemini, just, they're so good at shifting their perspective. And so, you know, we don't have enough of that we just can't even see that. It's, you know, it's too dogmatic. It's, it's, it's just not asking questions. I mean, I feel like I'm just keep saying the same thing over and over again, you know, but really not actually seeing the world through. Through a clear lens, it's almost like you're foggy, you know, your, what the information that you take you're taking in is, is filtered by something.

 

Gemini and Libra energies, perspectives, and curiosity.

Amy  19:42 

I'm gonna, I'm gonna overlap this with Enneagram. A little bit because I'm curious if this will resonate. The Enneagram nine is known for their perspective taking, they're able to take multiple types of perspective, which is Gemini, the Enneagram nine is called the peacemaker. And so, When we were talking about like, we wouldn't have curiosity, we wouldn't have perspectives, you think it's likely that we would have more polarity and less peace? Or more maybe silos of people?

 

Suzanne  20:11 

Yeah, yeah. If, if you if we didn't have what if sorry, repeat the question.

 

Amy  20:17 

Like, I guess what I'm thinking is if there wasn't a curiosity and a perspective taking, like, Jim and I can hold more than one perspective at a time, right. Would we ever even have the possibility for peace? Yeah, you know, in our world that we actually live in, right,

 

Suzanne  20:36 

right. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean, like, I

 

Amy  20:39 

feel like that skill of curiosity and being able to hold two different things is true, that don't seem like they could go together. Like, right,

 

Suzanne  20:47 

right. And that's a very Libran thing, too. Like, it sounds like a combination between the well because they're both air signs, they Libra and Gemini go together really, really well. You know and leave Libra. So, any air sign uses their mind. You know, that's, that's kind of where they go to Libra uses their mind to create balance, you know, to create harmony, and all of these kinds of things. Gemini uses their mind, just seek information, like just give me all of the information, you know, like, yeah, I want it all. And I want more questions. And Gemini, Gemini is not necessarily like, this is gonna sound maybe a little strange, but I think it's true. Gemini is not necessarily even trying to do anything with the information, right? Just there's like them. Yeah, it's like it. Geminis job is not to like judge what's its kind of if you ever took a statistics class, and they tell you like, taking it as a statistician, you're going to analyze all of this data. But it's not your job to say why the data is that way. It's just your job to say this is the data, somebody else needs to look at it and say, well, it's that because of because of this, like a Gemini would just be like, here's the data, probably with some help from some Virgo, you know? You know? Yeah,

 

Amy  22:03 

that makes sense. Of course, I asked the Libra in question, too.

 

Suzanne  22:09 

But they go together. I mean, it's like I you know, I love the trail of how the signs lead to one another. And there's multiple patterns that you can do that with one is the one we already talked about, of just one sign after the other, but another is looking at all the air signs together. And how do how do you move from one Air sign to the next? And that's kind of, you know, what it what it is? Is that okay, once we have all the information, well, now, what are we going to do with it? We're going to Libra is going to take the information. Peace and Harmony information.

 

Amy  22:38 

Ah, yes. Okay. That's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm thinking though, the last one, I'm thinking in whether it's the seed of creation, like the seed of innovation would have to start with Gemini. Like, I'm not saying they would necessarily create new things, but that hungry for data? Yeah, to me ultimately leads to

 

Suzanne  23:09 

Exactly, yeah. That yes, there they are the sign that allows us as a collective, giving information, what happens with it next? Well, that we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to ask cancer comes next. And we're gonna have to ask Libras the next Air sign, you know, and go through that?

 

Gemini's spiritual truth and role as teachers and storytellers

Amy  23:24 

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, without Gemini, this that's sad day is when we found Gemini like, I'm just thinking, like, the love of learning. Like in our country for a long time, it was like the if you want to have a job and be able to pay your bills, like you have to go to college. That was that was the thing. I'm not advocating yes or no for that model. But that was the model. It was like, get yourself educated. Like, imagine if we didn't have Gemini, like how different this country would be.  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That's fascinating. Okay, so what happens when we have too much Gemini? Yeah,

 

Suzanne  24:09 

you know, we're just changing our minds constantly. Like you can never app like it kind of it almost goes to the same kind of thing. Like you're just you're taking in information and never having like, you need other signs to come in there and to help you actually focus that energy. Because if I mean, yeah, if all you ever do is take in information, like in a Gemini in its purest form, and never do anything with it, truly what good is that? You know, and so, so it's for somebody who had too much Gemini in their chart, they're gonna have to learn to like, alright, let's ground here, because it's an Air sign. Let's ground. Let's get let's get our friends Virgo and Capricorn in there, you know, in Taurus and help us help us actually figure out how to materialize something from this, you know,

 

Amy  24:58 

come back to reality. Please. Yeah,

 

Suzanne  25:00 

Case I'll just be out there for let's just let's collect, collect, collect, talk, talk, talk, talk.

 

Amy  25:06 

I was gonna say the talk-talk-talk is interesting, too. I'll leave it at that. It's interesting. Yes. So essentially, like every episode, I asked you this question, and it always sort of feels like a silly question. But I haven't figured out a better one to ask. Yeah, what does Gemini need? From people? So let's say you have somebody in your life that has a lot of Gemini in their chart, what do they need from us in order to be their best self?

 

Suzanne  25:40 

Yeah, you know, just allow them to be in the weeds, all the information, you know, to research to their heart's content, to, you know, to talk to to change their minds, like, like, like I said, the whole to face thing, don't look at them, like they're two faced, look at them like nothing. They're okay with just changing their mind. That's, they're allowed to do that, you know, and bring nuance. You know, like,

 

Amy  26:06 

that's it. I

 

Suzanne  26:08 

haven't mentioned that yet. And I think that's, that's actually something that's so important for us that Gemini does bring to the conversation is nuance. Yeah, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I think. So they just they, yeah, they need to just be out there just constantly learning. And I don't think people necessarily understand they're the reason why they just want to keep asking questions and keep prodding and keep. It

 

Amy  26:37 

is an interesting idea to think that people, that's just what feeds them. And that's what lights them up. But then, then the what's next doesn't always seem irrelevant. Sometimes it does. But sometimes it's like, that's not even a question. They just want to learn for the sake of learning. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Which I will say earlier, I was like, oh, our society really values education, but they don't actually value learning for the sake of learning. Like you're supposed to have an output, according to the world that we live in. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And I was thinking about, because earlier, I said that I can be very curious in one thought, leading to another to another. And then in other ways, I'm not. And so, I was thinking about some of the Geminis that I have in my life. And I'm like, I really have to practice patience. They could be having a great time. And like, I want to hang in there with them. But it's not. If you know, if we're in an area of my life, that's not very Gemini friendly. Yeah, it for me as a tourist. I'm like, we had the answer. It was simple. Why are we still talking about it? Right,

 

Suzanne  27:47 

you know, and so Gemini wants to bring that nuance? Yeah, all of it. Come in there. And yeah, yeah, keep quiet. It's their mind just never shuts up. It just it literally doesn't stop. And they're gonna keep they're gonna keep going. Now the answer can't be that simple. There's more like. It's fun to dive into why and how and all of the things that's genuinely fun.

 

Amy  28:09 

It is, it is genuinely fun. Okay? Patients, I'm going to add to that list. Let them do their thing. Let them learn. Listen, let them talk. I love that. And if you can't do those things, people then just be mindful about who and how much time you spend with people. Yeah, you know, like, that's, that's how I feel. If you can't do a relationship, well, then be mindful about that. caveat. So, we talked about spiritual truth, like what is the sign here to embody and with Aries I don't even remember what you said now, but it was so that some things are worth fighting for. Was what you said. And then with Taurus, it was like to just be and it was so grounded and friggin lovely. And so, with Gemini, what do you think it is that they are here spiritually to embody to

 

Suzanne  29:06 

to be the great teachers and the storytellers of the world? How

 

Amy  29:11 

storytellers make sense.

 

Suzanne  29:14 

Yeah, and for its, it's so funny with spirituality and Gemini, and you and I have had this conversation before but it because Gemini is such a such a mental sign as such a skeptic Yeah. You know, as spiritual it's not to say the Gemini can't be spiritual, of course, they read. And it kind of the idea of spirituality completely kind of goes against that, you know, everything that's going on in the Geminis head. And so, you know, but I think that, I think so when we compare it to spirituality, and yeah, we look at it through that lens of No, but they are the teachers. They are the ones who, let's take the information, what has spirituality taught us and how can we, how can we actually extend that information to the world, you know, through story, real teachers, all of those kinds of things, you know and so I think that they're, there's their spiritual truth is just yeah being that lens help the world see, you know, whatever needs to be seen. Or if we were talking about Sagittarius, we will say to see the truth, right? Like Gemini is not after the truth. That's not even what they're after.

 

Amy  30:20 

That's mind boggling to me. Yeah,

 

Suzanne  30:23 

no, no, they're just after just the information like it's a Gemini is just here. Here's the uh huh. Yeah, I'm gonna get I'll tell it to you via story. You know Geminis are fantastic.

 

Amy  30:38 

Okay, yeah, I didn't. I'm glad you said that. Because I hadn't put that together. It makes sense. But I just hadn't put that together. Okay, so they are here to be the teachers. Hmm. That's so interesting. I don't know I just I'm thinking about I'm having Deja vu. Because I did a podcast episode last season about how curiosity is the most underutilized spiritual gift. Hmm. And so, you're talking about like Geminis not being that spiritual as well. It's kind of funny. Because I think it is a very underutilized gift. Curiosity is an opening. Yeah, it opens you up. And that is how spirit enters in, like, you have to be open to receiving for spirit to come in. And go ahead. Yeah.

 

Suzanne  31:38 

And I think that one of the problems that we have in our society is that when people, they pick their version of spirituality, most people are born into it, and they just live by it their whole lives, you know. And so, our idea of spirituality, I think, is yes, too dogmatic. You know, and it's causes wars, you know, my God is better than your God, and you know, all of these kinds of things that are honestly really awful. And, and, and yeah, you're right. I think Gemini, I think curiosity. True spirituality absolutely would involve curiosity. Absolutely. I don't, I don't think that the powers that be you know, however you want to define that. First, I don't ever define it a certain way. Because I'm a Gemini, I'm like, I don't know what I can call it a million things show or whatever. You know, but that funneling that information in? Like, I don't actually believe? I don't believe we understand any of this, though. Yeah, I don't, I don't think the human mind is actually capable of understanding whatever is going on out there. Whatever powers there are, whatever connections there are, I don't I actually just don't even think we have the ability to comprehend it. And so can we just with that in mind, can we just constantly receive and storytell and, you know, and, and let Gemini be the funnel by which, you know, the information keeps coming in, we don't become too dogmatic and we learn to listen to each other. I mean, imagine, imagine,

 

Speaker 2  33:11 

and to listen to, like, not just listen, but here. You

 

Suzanne  33:15 

know, I mean, the song Imagine always, for me is, you know, one of the lines that he says in that song, you know?

 

Amy  33:25 

So, I'm literally imagining, in my mind, I'm imagining information like somebody a Gemini is listening to somebody, and it's coming in to the Gemini like, I'm seeing it from that from the right side of the chart, coming into Gemini on the third side of the chart, and then I was going, the Gemini hears it, and then it settles into their body. Like you're not really hearing unless your whole body gets it. That's like the difference between listening and hearing and my point of view. So, it's like the fact that Gemini comes after tourists have that sort of Yeah, is what helps us here. Yeah, yeah, the body has to come first. Yeah, I don't think it has to come first. But it has to be a part of it

 

Suzanne  34:11 

has to be because you have to understand your body before you can understand the information because you're right, it sinks into your body. So, if you're not if you haven't clued into your body yet, and you're receiving information, right, you don't have the whole picture you can't

 

Amy  34:27 

have empathy is the thing like empathy is the feeling and if you're just listening but not hearing, there's no empathy. Yeah. So, I just think how I don't know I just the every week we talked about how one time follows another and it's just not something I spent a lot of time thinking about. So, in this situation to think oh, like the tourists is not somebody that is going to listen to new perspectives on its own. You know what I mean? Like that's not what Taurus is here for. So, then the idea that Gemini couldn't be its best Self if it hadn't been Taurus first, like, that's just so beautiful to me. I people are probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about. But

 

Suzanne  35:10 

if they're following the whole conversation, then it makes sense. You know, I think if you came in right here, then they'd be like, why? You know what? And the same is true for you know, Aries just here. Aries gave us life. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, you and you know, and we'll continue this conversation throughout this series of podcasts. So, you know,

 

Amy  35:29 

but yeah, and then something worth fighting for makes the like, it's worth listening. It's worth hearing you. Yes, there is something to fight for here. Which is like, fighting is uncomfortable. And that's the thing that we don't talk about with listening is like, it's uncomfortable. If it wasn't, we would all be doing it. It can be very uncomfortable. Absolutely. To

 

Suzanne  35:56 

hear to hear our perspective that's different than yours. Yeah. To maybe say that you might be wrong. Yeah.

 

Gemini personality traits, including curiosity, love of new ideas, and desire for emotional connection.

Amy  36:03 

Or if it's just like, just so new to you. And you're like, wait, what? Like it's so new that it's foreign. I mean, yes. Yeah. Oh, look at how they just build on each other. Suzanne. I love this. Man. So how do you think a Gemini? I'm assuming through story, but how do you think a Gemini loves others and you are a Gemini? How do you love others with your Gemini? Yeah,

 

Suzanne  36:31 

I just I want to know everything about them. You know, like, tell me all of the things. I yeah, like, I'm gonna love.

 

Amy  36:39 

that. He loves being seen. Well, most people without trauma, love being human. You know? Yeah, yeah.

 

Suzanne  36:48 

Yeah, no. And with that Scorpio moon too. I'm like, don't ask about me. Let's talk about you.

 

Amy  36:55 

That's, that's really beautiful. The like, tell me all the things about you. Mm hmm. You know, that's beautiful. So I'm sorry, I interrupted. So What? What? Oh, you're good.

 

Suzanne  37:04 

No, I mean, honestly, I think that's it. I think it's pretty straightforward. I think they just they want to they want to know everything about the person. Yeah. And they want to they want to try to understand the person.

 

Amy  37:15 

Yeah, that's yeah. And then do you think with Gemini, I'm assuming that they're, do they give new ideas? Because they're curious. Would you also say that they like? Like, if I was going through an issue, could you with all your data be like, Okay, there's this there's this there's that? Maybe,

 

Suzanne  37:35 

maybe, I think, but again, the Gemini doesn't necessarily like Yeah, I suppose. So, I suppose that they're, they're gonna help them like maybe filter out the information and, you know, show them different show them different perspectives. Sure. Yeah. There you go. Yes.

 

Amy  37:51 

Yeah, it makes sense. Let me give you some more perspective on something. Yeah, that and that is a gift. Uh, huh. When people are ready for it, wouldn't be able to read this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But a Gemini like,

 

Suzanne  38:04 

I know, for me, a lot of times, I'm just like I, like I'll have a million ideas in my head. But I won't necessarily want to share them with the other person because I'm like, well, I'm sure they have a million ideas in their head too. And they've, like, you know, it's I don't necessarily, like want to put my ideas there because I feel like their own ideas are probably pretty pure, but I don't know if that might just be a me thing. That might not be a Gemini thing. I'm not even sure. Yeah, you know, like, I just I feel like everybody's getting in this. You know,

 

Amy  38:39 

I'm getting all this information all.

 

Suzanne  38:40 

the time. Yeah. Okay, interesting. So, I don't know like I don't necessarily want to interfere with somebody else's process. I want them to be.

 

Amy  38:51 

able to do it to do their own thing. Yeah,

 

Suzanne  38:54 

but I'm not sure that's actually like that might be a more of a new

 

Amy  38:58 

thing. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think for some people, I could see just the chattiness being a gift it that's total personality wise, but there are some people that like need to be drawn out of their shell and need to be encouraged to leave the house you know? Yeah, in that case, like a Gemini is a pretty good person to have around. That's true. Yeah,

 

Suzanne  39:24 

they are the social butterfly they're gonna they will drag you out of the house not me as the Gemini that's but other just don't think of it because it says that yeah, not necessarily me. I mean, maybe in my youth more but um, but yeah, so Gemini will there will be the one like you know, chatting everybody up at the bar and you know, forcing you to kind of go out and you know that kind of small talk I don't think that these things a Gemini can because I don't like small talk that Scorpio moons like nope, but most Geminis are gonna love small talk. They're gonna be really good at it and

 

Amy  39:56 

I don't know.

 

Suzanne  39:59 

Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Oh, I think I think you're right. I think that's true. Yeah.

 

Amy  40:07 

Yeah. Yeah. And then I mean, I think we talked about this earlier in this when I asked like, what does Gemini need from us? But is there anything in particular, if I could give Gemini a gift Geminis birthday is coming up, if I could give them a gift, like, what is just a new book? Or, you know, yeah,

 

Suzanne  40:27 

I you know, I think what Geminis want to feel what they want others to allow them to feel is, is they want to feel like the world is their oyster. You know, like, they just there's, there's a certain childlike joy that Geminis have at the fact that everything is new. Like the kind of the kind of mindset that a Gemini has. It's, it's, it's, it's that the everything's brand new. And that's it's again, it's childlike. It's just like, there's, you can never learn and laugh. So, you can never like, learn enough every like, I feel like, how do I say this? It's just like, a want to feel like, like, they can just go out there. And the world is exciting, and its brand new. And I just think they receive best by someone who allows them to feel this way, you know, and allows them to just talk ad nauseam and really hears what they're saying, or at least kind of pretends to hear what they're saying. Sometimes I think it can maybe be hard to follow the trails that go on in a Geminis head, but at least being present for them, you know, allowing them to speak freely and allowing them to have that wonder, always in their eyes. I think sometimes people don't understand that childlike energy and that wonder that a Gemini wants to feel and society I think tends to squash that down. You're supposed to just know the answer, right? Not be new. Yeah.

 

Amy  42:03 

Not sick about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

 

Suzanne  42:09 

they just, they just, yeah, they want things to be exciting. I think supporting them in there.

 

Amy  42:18 

That's really part of what's interesting to me about the word exciting is because they're not a fire sign. Like when I hear that exciting I associate that with fire, but it makes absolute sense for Gemini.

 

Suzanne  42:28 

Yeah, it's yeah, it's just it's more of a mental exciting thing with their mind to be a flurry.

 

Amy  42:35 

of flurry is the perfect way. That's the perfect word. Yeah. Okay. So, they receive love by being listened to being heard. And you said like, or at least looking like you're like acting like you're listening. And I was laughing about that because I was thinking, you know, last episode with tourists. We were talking about like a bowl, just loving to sit and watch a bee fly around. Yeah, I was thinking about like, their AI in general. I've worked a lot on actually hearing people. So, it's not something I do all the time. But I could totally see myself like not unintentionally tuning out. Because it's just like, oh, I'm just like, watching this be like fluttering around. And I don't know, we're all you know, it's like I'm watching it instead of actually listening to it. Sometimes that does happen. Less so with you, but with some other Geminis in my life that has happened. Yeah, yeah. That's myself going, oh, I'm just like, I got sort of mesmerized by all this back and forth. Yeah, come back to the moment.

 

Suzanne  43:41 

So funny.

 

Amy  43:44 

So, it's, we kind of we answered this one. I was gonna say what we bring Gemini deeper connection to Source divine energy God, and I think curiosity is what we said.

 

Suzanne  43:55 

yesterday. Yeah, just like really wanting to make sense of those things. Also, you know, like, like, there's just and again, they're not actually trying to find the truth. Right. Like, they're trying to make sense of it. But they'll always be open minded. So, I think that their version of spirituality is just learning about it. Yeah. Yeah. Being curious about it. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Gemini and Cancer astrology

Amy  44:20 

That's beautiful. So this, we have a listener question for this episode. Which is funny because I think it's your same placement. She's a Gemini with cancer rising. And she asked when dealing with horoscopes Should I look more at cancer since it was rising? Or the Gemini? Yeah.

 

Suzanne  44:39 

And you're right, that is my placement. I am a Gemini-Sun, Cancer-Rising. So that is very funny that that that question did happen to get asked. Yeah, so Okay. Um, ask different astrologers. You're gonna get a different answer on this on this year. This is an IT there's a number of variables that happen here. And I will also say I'm not actually a huge fan of the horoscope. Right, you know, like, like looking at, you know, you're looking at a magazine and going like, oh, how is this month going to be for Gemini? You know? Or how is this month gonna be for cancer? Because I just think that our charts are way too nuanced for that. And there's too, you know, you can, you know, I can be a Gemini son and have literally nothing else in Gemini, no third house energy, no, nothing, you know, and yeah, have a weak mercury, and well, how much of a Gemini? Am I actually if that's the case? Right, you know? And so then I think so I, I know, that's not necessarily the answer that people want to hear. And it's maybe not even the popular answer. But, but, yeah, I think that understanding, and this is why a lot of people will say that the rising sign is better, let me tell you the logic of short of what of why they say that, they say that, because your rising sign dictates your entire chart, where, where all of the houses are, and your house structure is what dictates how you actually move about the day, the planets are like, and the, you know, are like, kind of how you want to feel about the thing, kind of yours, what you're really trying to do. But the houses are which inform our actions where we do things. So, in as much as like a horoscope, that saying, oh, you know, you know, you know, it's your lucky day or you know, whatever. Well, that's that is more like, well, what are what are our actions be if it's our lucky day? You know, what, what should we do? And so that's why somebody a lot of times will say, though, oh, it's really use your rising sign? For me. I have a couple problems with this. I mean, mainly that I think mostly when people say that they're talking about a whole house system, right? Because if you're using a whole house system, then that does become very, very simple. Because then you know, cancer rules your entire first house. And so, you can look at that, and you can go at your entire first house. That's what rules that that's what that's the whole kit and caboodle. And it becomes a very simple thing to say that. And if you work with the whole house system, then that's fair. I'm, you know, I don't work with the whole house system. Personally, I'm not going to, I think it's fine when people do. So, I can see the logic and when you use a whole house system going, Okay, well, yeah, your rising sign look to your rising sun, because that's really important. It's really clear what's actually happening. For me, I don't use that I, when I look at charts, you know, my first house is a mixture of Cancer and Leo. And so, it's not so simple to say, you know, oh, well, the moon is in the first house. So that means that, you know, that it's in cancer. I know, it might be in Leo, and I might have more Leo, planets in Leo than I do in cancer, you know, in the first house, which is actually the case for me, you know. So, so I think it's, I know, it's not a fun answer, necessarily. I just think it's more complicated than that. Yeah. I think that looking at your son to me, looking at your sun sign is cleaner. Because that your sun sign. And I like I like a lot of times on Instagram, there's certain accounts that will say like, they'll say, a certain statement, and then they'll say, look to your Venus, you know, and they'll tell you which planet to look to. As for that, and I, to me, that's, that's clearer. That's better. Because every if all you think, oh, I'm a Gemini, like, okay, but you've got all this Capricorn energy in your chart, like, you know, your Saturn is conjunct your sun that like, you're kind of a Capricorn, you know, so it's, you know, I yeah, I think does that make sense? I was not, I mean,

 

Amy  48:51 

yeah. We don't know what type of horoscope this person was referencing. Yeah, but I will add that I've been I used to watch every month Colette Baron Reid does like Tarot and astrology readings for like the month ahead, and she always says, do your Sun Moon rising. And typically, one or two of them would have resonated more than the other one. And now I know enough about astrology to go oh, one of those was probably being aspected in a way. But so, what I would do is I would just, I would put emphasis on whichever one felt more appropriate or felt more alive for me. I would just read both and like, I would go with okay, that's the thing I actually need to keep in mind. Is this one over here? Yeah. So that's one of my responses. My other responses, you cannot get enough astrology readings. Like if you're, I mean, really, if you're looking at a horoscope for the month ahead, or the quarter ahead. I advocate that you just get a reading like whether it's with Suzanne or anybody else, but maybe find an astrologer that has like a bundle for frequent week. Anchor has a membership. Because I think that, you know, part of what I'm advocating by doing this podcast series is knowing yourself. Yeah. And the beauty of astrology compared to so many other thing ways that you could know yourself is that it reflects what's happening in the world, and how it goes back to your chart. And so, I'm, I'm a huge advocate for, you don't need just one chart reading and now you understand yourself and you're done. You know, so if you're a person that likes to read horoscopes, I would start researching, use your Gemini curiosity to start finding like, how else might I invite astrology into my life and make it to where I get even more data? Miss Gemini? Yeah, you know, that's what I say to that. I'm not the astrologer answer, but that's the, my opinion on that one.

 

Suzanne  50:53 

I think and I think that's true. I mean, that is really once I started understanding, you know, how nuanced it was, and that it wasn't so simple. That is, that is what I did. I started just Googling things. You know, what, well, what does it mean? If you know, like, Jupiter is in cancer, and you know, Jupiter is in this placement today? How is that affecting my, you know, my needle placement? I mean, you know, yeah, the world is our oyster. We have the internet, you know? You can Google all these things. Now, when you Google it, you're gonna get like, yeah, you're gonna get a million different answers. Yeah, sure. And so, I tried to stick to the websites that seemed more reputable and, you know, seem to have Yeah, leaner grasp on thing.

 

Amy  51:39 

Yes, and Suzanne will have, and we'll have a link in the show notes to Suzanne's Gemini workbook that you'll be able to access. So especially for all you Geminis out there. But even if you don't have Gemini in your chart, it's still a season that we all experience. So okay, the other question was, is it true that Geminis are one of the only signs that get along with their own side?

 

Suzanne  52:04 

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that.

 

Amy  52:06 

I think that's a whole Arias question, though. I'm

 

Suzanne  52:09 

so curious. Yeah. Yeah, I can totally see why somebody would say that. And I'm sure if you ask another astrologer, they're gonna do absolutely. And they'll tell you that, you know, I Yeah, because they are the sign of the twins. So being able to see other people's perspective, and, you know, absolutely, I mean, that. That does make sense. But I think other signs absolutely get along with each other. I think that it's I think that it can be true that sometimes, I know I've met people that I've immediately thought that person so much like me, and I hate them. We've all had that experience, you know. And so, I do see where they're going with that question. But maybe Gemini has a little bit of a, you know, maybe they're a little bit better at it. But

 

Amy  52:56 

yeah, I think it's funny that because it's astrology, because it's so nuanced and detailed that for everything we talk about, we have to add depending on It depends, maybe this. It's like, here's what we're saying. But also maybe, yeah,

 

Suzanne  53:10 

it's true because we're not talking nobody has pure jump. Nobody's Right. Like, that's just that's not even possible, at least not right now. Maybe at some point in time. I don't know. But that

 

Amy  53:19 

will. And I was thinking too about like, would you look at your rising sign. And I was thinking there's so many people that don't know their time of birth and don't know their rising sign, or their house placement. So, they could only look at their son.

 

Suzanne  53:32 

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I mean, they'll they could look at the other planets, which are right house placements, they would never get Yeah. And rising sign they would never get they don't know their time of birth. Yeah.

 

Amy  53:43 

So. Okay, well, anything else you want to say about Gemini before we talk about the season ahead? Um,

 

Suzanne  53:51 

no, yeah. Yeah, I would just want to add that the Gemini workbook, if you go on to my website, she dances under the moon, it is in the show notes. And it's completely free. Just, you know, just sign up for my mailing list via the link on that. If you go into living by the seasons, and go into Gemini section, you'll see it there where you can get it's totally free. And it kind of walks you through how to embody Gemini. And yeah. helps you to learn about Gemini and your own chart. Yeah. Yay.

 

Astrology Transits in Gemini Season

Amy  54:22 

So what are the anything you want to share about upcoming transits? Yeah,

 

Suzanne  54:29 

okay, so we enter Gemini season on May 20. At 559 A M Pacific time. So, and that's, yeah, so that I think it's a day early than Gemini normally is like if you were just to Google Gemini season, I'm pretty sure it normally starts on May 21. And this one's on May 20. And it's actually early in the morning so it's kind of it's funny how that works. A lot of people they you know, they they'll just Google Oh windows, you know a certain see He's inside. And if somebody was born on, you know, on May 20, May 21, they might not know that they're a Gemini or a Taurus and there are people I know for instance, Lana Del Rey, who of course, I'm obsessed with. She went her entire life thinking that she was a Gemini, because she was born the summer solstice. She's in fact a cancer her entire life thinking that she was a Gemini. And so, it's kind of funny that this Yeah, this time, it starts pretty early. So, there's going to be definitely some babies thinking that they're Taurus’s, but they're actually Geminis. Anyway, so that's when we actually enter Gemini season. And then, so I'm gonna go through the moon cycle first. So, we start off very early in Gemini season, May 23, at 5:54am Pacific Time, with a Full Moon in Sagittarius. So, I love that we kind of start off at that full moon energy just started off with a bang. Again, Gemini likes things to be exciting. So, let's just bring in the full moon right away. And yeah, um, and then after that on May 30, at 9:14am We've got a last quarter moon in Pisces. And on June 13, at 9:19pm we have our First Quarter Moon in Virgo. And what you'll notice about all of these signs I always say this, but I'll say it again. Full Moon and Sajid, I missed the new moon didn't lie. I totally skipped over the new guys, I'm sorry, New Moon and Gemini on June 6 at 4:39am. But what you'll notice about all four of those signs of the moon phases, we've got Sagittarius Pisces, Gemini and Virgo. Those are the four mutable signs.

 

Amy  56:41 

And so is that always the case that the moon stays in the Element Mode element in

 

Suzanne  56:47 

the mode? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It always stays there for whatever the moon phases are. That's how you get that angle.

 

Amy  56:55 

Gotcha. Because it's staying in the mutable. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Whereas when it was in tourist season, it was staying in the fixed. Exactly.

 

Suzanne  57:06 

Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just like to point that out, because I just think, people to understand the moon phases, you know, and how we how to work with that moon energy that during this portion, it's all going to be mutable, it's going to be very.

 

Amy  57:20 

changeable. I was gonna say, so lots to do with change. Perspective

 

Suzanne  57:23 

shifting, shifting. Yeah, all of that. Just yeah, yeah. All of that kind of stuff. Well, and

 

Amy  57:30 

we just had not that long ago, like the new the eclipse in Aries. And there's been so much stuff in air. Like, I feel like so many of us are starting things fresh. Yes, like there's this sort of new season for a lot of people. So, to now have this Gemini to open up to even more perspective, like, once again, astrology is just so beautiful, the way it is designed to support us.

 

Suzanne  57:52 

And the interesting thing about that, that that's been happening, and the kind of the pattern that we've had this these last few months is that you're right, there has been there was so much Aries when we weren't Aries season, just so much Aries all throughout the sky moved into Taurus season, and it kind of shifted a lot of its Taurus, which is, to some extent, it's kind of normal, because mercury is never too far from the sun. And Venus is never really that far from the Sun either. So, it can be actually pretty normal for there to be these clusters of things. But it was a little extreme, especially in Aries season, then we moved into Taurus and kind of the same thing happened. And as we move into Gemini season, similar thing is going to happen. And we've actually got one really, really big transit coming up here. So, I'll talk about that here in a second. So yeah, so after let's see May 23 1:30pm. Venus enters Gemini. So, there we go. Again, Venus never too far from the sun, enters Gemini. Here's the big one. May 25. You guys at 4:14pm. Pacific Time, Jupiter, enters Gemini. Yeah. So, the thing about Jupiter, Jupiter has about a 12-year cycle. So, it takes about 12 years to go around the sun. So that means that the last time Jupiter was in Gemini was about 12 years ago. So, huh? So, it does take a while. So, it's exciting when Jupiter shifts any of the outer planets, it's a little bit more exciting when they shift, you know? So yeah, and kind of, okay, the energy of Jupiter is big, it's expansive. It wants you to, you know, just like the question it wants to the question it wants you to ask is Where are you underestimating yourself? You know because this is a time to expand in Gemini fashion. Okay, so how are you underestimating your perspectives? How can you get more curious? So as a collective, we are all being assigned to this task. Once you know As of May 25 For the next year after that. We're all being assigned that task. Yeah. How can we get more curious? How can we be more Open minded How can we all shift our perspectives? And gosh, do we need that?

 

Amy  1:00:04 

I was gonna say it's so funny like that that's happening just months before the election. And I'm like, well, right now, there's no debate scheduled, but perhaps that's going to change.

 

Suzanne  1:00:14 

Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, gosh, we all just really need to be a little bit more open minded and listen to our neighbors and, you know, allow these shifts of perspective. So, I really, I'm really hoping that collectively, it lends itself to just to us being able to see each other a little bit better. I don't, I don't know. That's my hope. Are people individually? You know, what you want to do is of course look to see any signs that you have in Gemini? Yeah, how is how is Jupiter? You know, Jupiter is going to kind of expand that. So, for me, my son is in is in Gemini, so And Jupiter is kind of a funny sign because it's so big, you know, it's the biggest planet in our solar system. So, because it's so big, the second that it enters that sign, it's going to start blowing that sign up. Even for me, I'm, yeah, I'm 27 degrees of Gemini. So, I'm way at the end of Gemini. But even for me, it's going to start blowing up my Gemini as soon as it's there. That's

 

Amy  1:01:20 

so interesting, because I was going to ask you like, is it the early degrees only but okay, because it's Jupiter.

 

Suzanne  1:01:25 

Yeah, because it's Jupiter. It's everything. I mean, I think that sure the early degrees are going to be more impacted early on, like, that's my gut feeling. You know, but, but I bet it does kind of really touch everybody. And you. Yeah, for you. You've got you have Jupiter in Gemini. Is

 

Amy  1:01:43 

that what you know? I have Venus and Venus,

 

Suzanne  1:01:46 

Venus, Venus and Chiron in Gemini. That's right. So yeah, for you that Venus is really going to be lit up. So yeah, look, look to those signs. And then ask yourself, how are you underestimating yourself there?

 

Amy  1:01:58 

It's gonna be opposite my Saturn friend. Oh.

 

Suzanne  1:02:05 

Yeah. That's, yeah, it's also there.

 

She Dances Under the Moon

Amy  1:02:09 

Yeah, so and I want to give you a shout out to I'm I'm just echoing this, a friend of mine had a reading with you recently. And she was already part of like, your free Moon journal offering that you give to everybody. But then she has now joined your membership. And she was she was like, friend, why didn't you tell me about this? She's like, it's so cool. Because of what you do with the I can't even think what you call the moon phases, the moon phases. And how you tailor it to this is where this is the house that it's going to be in? And thus, this is the question that you can be thinking about. So shout out to your moon journal membership. Because

 

Suzanne  1:02:54 

Ah, thanks. So good to hear. I love that.

 

Amy  1:02:58 

It is I think it's hard to value. For me personally. I mean, it's hard to value anything you don't have experience of anyway. But for me, I had so much resistance to the moon thing because I was just like, it changes all the damn time. Like how often do we have to talk about but when you get the journal prompts it's surprising how it's just surprising to me like how much it does matter and how much you can kind of follow the themes. And I don't journal enough, I like that's part of the offer that's so beautiful is that you can journal but being able to go back and look at that. Okay, one more question. I'm going to come back to moon phases. Yes. Is writing in Gemini thing?

 

Suzanne  1:03:53 

Oh, yeah. Okay. Not at all. Did I But absolutely, I

 

Amy  1:03:57 

would assume so. It's chatty and storytelling, but it just like made me think journaling. Yes, writing. Did you want to say anything else about the moon phases? Like I'm curious. It started Full Moon in Sag. Uh huh. And I'm curious, within Gemini season, when the moon is going through the mutable signs, what's the nature of those questions?

 

Suzanne  1:04:29 

I mean, I think yeah, it all has to do with perspective shifts. Okay. No, like, yeah, it just, its especially Okay, quarter moons are kind of about learning to shift our perspectives regardless. So now when we're beautiful it's really like it's gonna force you to ask questions like, get curious, ask questions. You know, I always say with a new moon, that's your intention. Okay. So well, and for me again, to your point of you know, let's what I do in my membership, I'm going to tell you what, how is it said, I'm going to tell you kind of where that lies for you what kind of intention is makes sense for you? You know? So yes, set your intention. And then it comes to the quarter moon now we kind of look like, oh, do we need to shift our perspective? How did that intention go? Like, do we need to shift something? Full Moon now let's release something so that that can kind of, you know, we can be aligned with that a little bit more. And with the Full Moon is always gonna be opposite of where it was with the with the new moon. So, you know, now we're gonna we're gonna release something again to kind of help us get there. And then we have another quarter moon after that. And again, okay, perspective shift again. So, there's a lot of perspective shifts, always. But when we've got mutable double down, it's a Yeah, yeah. Just yeah. You really want to stay open minded. Huh?

 

Amy  1:05:57 

I had a question and then I lost it.

 

Suzanne  1:06:03 

Oh, shoot. Okay, well, uh, shoot, I had a question.

 

Understanding moon phase energy in Astrology

Amy  1:06:09 

And it has. I have just gone from me. Oh, so is a full moon always going to be the opposite sign of what the Sun is in? Yes. Okay. Okay, so then a New Moon is always this when the moon and the sun are in the same sign. Exactly. Yeah. Got it. And so, then the quarter moons are the halfway in between.

 

Suzanne  1:06:32 

Uh huh. That's the squared energy of the sun. Yeah. Oh, and

 

Amy  1:06:39 

that's why you're questioning on quarter moons because it's square to the new and the full.

 

Suzanne  1:06:43 

Yeah. Oh, got it. Fascinating.

 

Amy  1:06:49 

I didn't realize this. This. I feel naive for saying this. But I didn't realize that the like four quarter New Moon quarter like that in every Sun season, the month the moon does all of those. Yeah, I did not realize that.

 

Suzanne  1:07:09 

Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that either. Honestly, until I really started putting everything together. And I you know, kind of what, I just really started realizing when all how all this started was I was like, I just I just want to journal with the moon like that. That's what I want to do. And I didn't see anything out there that that kind of really helped that at least not in the way that I wanted. And and so then I I started it. Like I said, I wanted to have a beginner's mindset as a Gemini. So I didn't just go to the internet and read about it. Like I was figuring it all out, like I was, you know, in there and, and I had that same revelation of like, Wait, is this always like that? Like I had to come? So yeah, no, you're not alone. I don't think most people know that.

 

Amy  1:07:51 

Well, that revelation is helpful because it it adds so much more depth to why you would journal with the moon. Yeah, it's that process of evolution is taking place within the energy of Gemini. You know, it like it just kind of colors it differently and adds more significance than what I had realized. Yeah, so um, so obviously, everybody she dances under the moon.com. Me Hagen mandala love board, slash I think it's Astro flash. If not, it's in the show notes if you want a joint reading. Suzanne anything else? I think we're good. But, um,

 

Suzanne  1:08:31 

transits to talk about Yeah. Do

 

Amy  1:08:33 

I'm gonna have to copy you keep going?

 

Jupiter enters Gemini

Suzanne  1:08:36 

Yeah, so, we got to, we got to Jupiter enters Gemini. And Mercury is also going to enter Gemini on June 3. And that's an exciting one. Yeah. Yes. That's an exciting one. Because, you know, Mercury rules Gemini. So, Mercury is really really happy in Gemini, you know, so it's gonna I think, again, I mean, I just I love the idea that Jupiter enters Gemini. And now then we have mercury following that up. That's really beautiful. Yeah. And of course, Mercury is fascinating. So, it's not going to stay that way for long but, but I love that idea. Because again, can we open our minds? Can we open our minds? Well, we'll see what starts to happen late May, early June. Maybe collectively, we'll have some shifts that will be helpful for all of us. I don't know what's new. Um, let's see here. What else do we have Mars enters Taurus on June 8. And then we've got Venus entering cancer on June 16. And then Mercury talked about how fast Mercury moves Mercury enters cancer in the same season June 17. So, it is really not there for it is normally doesn't move that fast. That was very speedy. For it for mercury. So only there for a couple weeks, though. Oh, yeah, that is fast.

 

Amy  1:09:50 

Ah, Mars entering Taurus is interesting. Yes. It's less fire more grounded, but it's probably more physical. might be a good time to use your bunny. What was? What was would you say after Mars entering Taurus,

 

Suzanne  1:10:08 

Venus in Taurus, Cancer ?

 

Amy  1:10:11 

So, here's what's funny to me about that is Venus rules Libra and Taurus. And yes, I could see I could see I, I almost was like Venus rules cancer, but of course the moon rules cancer, but um, I could see some Venetian energy in cancer like, are they like a sextile or something? Yeah, this is a sign but yeah, cancer. But Libra.

 

Suzanne  1:10:35 

Let me think Wait, the Taurus.

 

Amy  1:10:40 

Taurus and cancer. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, cause I was like, they've got to be related somehow. Yes, Taurus.

 

Suzanne  1:10:45 

And Taurus and cancer. Absolutely. Get along. Those are touchy feely ease.

 

Amy  1:10:48 

Together. Yeah. Okay, so that feels good. Okay, and then go what was after Venus?

 

Suzanne  1:10:58 

Mercury enters cancer.

 

Amy  1:11:03 

Oh, because it was already on a Gemini. Okay. Yeah.

 

Suzanne  1:11:06 

Yeah, it's not there long. It isn't. Wow. So.

 

Amy  1:11:10 

So, we're warming up for cancer season. Have Venus and Mercury there before the sun gets there? Yeah. Interesting. This is going to be an A nice season, we're going to like start it off with a bang with Jupiter and Mercury and Gemini. I

 

Suzanne  1:11:25 

think so we've had some pretty extreme things happening, you know, with the eclipses and all of that and all that Aries energy. And so yeah, I think I think this is hopefully we can be a little bit more gentle but open our minds and yeah, yeah, we'll see. Hmm, I love it.

 

Amy  1:11:48 

Anything else about transits or anything at all? Wonderful, I

 

Suzanne  1:11:51 

think I think that's good. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll

 

Amy  1:11:54 

wrap it up everybody if you made it to this far in the podcast. Thank you for hanging with us. And if you have any questions about cancer, whether it's your in your chart or you know anything at all, let us know. We'd love to answer your questions. And we'll see you next time. laughs bye.

 

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